Poch trying to find another gear
Power shift? Only in Poch’s engine transmission, little else…
I’m still buzzing over our glorious win vs. that lot.
But then this power shift nonsense has made me think.
Compared to 10/15 years ago, yes – we and they are pretty much on a keel. On the pitch, at least. Off the pitch, we still have a far bigger brand, more trophies, more revenues, etc.
I received some comical messages in one of the previews I did for the game. They were a mix of “oh! you’re a scared gooner!” to “you think we’re on your case now!”
Nonetheless, for this supposed power shift to happen, for me at least the following needs to occur:
– Consistently higher league finishes. One season is not enough.
– More trophies over a sustained period. Just like Liverpool won more than Man U in the 1970s/80s, and vice versa in the Premier League era, then they have to vis a vis us. Even in a period of progress for them, we’ve still achieved things and they’ve won shit.
Giroud: French legend in the making
– Better players, achieving more at domestic, European, and international levels. At the moment, they do have many good players. But so do we. Our players, despite not being as well-coached as theirs, currently do well at international level. Giroud is the seventh highest scorer in French history, and could be just behind our own Henry when he retires. Not bad for our second string striker, eh? Kane is the best English striker, but he still has not won a major trophy, even though he has got two back to back Golden Boots.
– Fanbase and financials. We outdo them in those metrics, inclusive of revenues, brand value, market cap, social media followers, etc. However, whilst their new ground will surely boost their match-day income, ours is high (arguably the highest in the world) due to our Club Level and generally higher prices than other clubs.
Rest Room. Site for sore eyes for intergalactic truckers
Spurs will have some corporate/high-end features, though they want an emphasis towards the real fan and not day-trippers. In that case, they may not be able to rival our revenues, especially with concerns that higher prices are deterring “hardcore” fans from attending live football. It may be that our atmosphere is comparatively bad due to our higher prices, who knows?
Considering the comments I got on my preview pieces, I wonder what the same Tottenham fans are thinking now, especially when their boy Kane was half-fit in our game? I do not fear Spurs, and I can/will accept if they’re ever better than us. But then here I’m just stating how I believe this “power shift” should emerge, that’s all.
Power is not just based on who finishes higher than who. It is over a sustained period, and must account for many things in that span. Barca were better than Real Madrid from 2006 to 2014. Real Madrid have been better since then. Rangers were better than Celtic from the early 1990s to the early 2000s. Though for various reasons, Celtic have overtaken Rangers since th were
In all of these rivalries, it has been defined by who has been more successful over many seasons. And to say they were better than us last year is pretty moot, since we won something and they didn’t. Trophies are the pinnacle of football, nay sport. No track and field athlete is satisfied with solely competing at IAAFs or the Olympics. No boxer is solely satisfied with just managing to fight a contender. S/he wants to win the title, and at best be the undisputed champion.
So, if the same (or other) Lillywhites wish to say I am “scared”, or “bitter”, go ahead. I will await and read your comments with great glee, especially since many of your lot in other media said you’d smash us. It’s the pride that gets you, eh?
Though to finish, I’d love an FA Cup Final vs. your lot. It’s about time we met in a major final, and we usually win them, which you haven’t of late….
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Nice story – what a imbecile you are
I am an (not proper usage…) imbecile? For questioning the supposed power shift? OK.
oh god shut up already. We’ve just done something that you continually fail to do. Win a CL group. Walk away from playing a top German team without becoming the laughing stock of European football. And take 4 points from the best team on the planet. One game and you think you’ll make top 4. hahaha.
We finished top of our group last year.
Oh, and we’ve reached finals and semis before…something you haven’t done in many years, if ever. Top four? why not? One game and you think you’ll win the Champions League. lol. As for laughing stocks, is this why you lost to Gent? Do you really think you’ll get top four by drawing to WBA?
Arsenal are Spurs new West Ham .. Not beaten Spurs for nearly FOUR years in PL so it was a cup final for you guys.. Cant wait for your DVD
We didn’t produce one when we won a trophy that you supposedly all now despise….don’t let Ricky Villa, Ardiles or Gazza hear that you do, their greatest moments were in that competition, and they’re some of your all-time legends…
Beating us at the Emirates 2-0, is no more of an achievement than Spurs beating you at the Lane 2-0. It should in no way be used as ‘proof’ that there is no power shift. The reason you have been worried is the threat Tottenham now represent to your status as a club. What would it mean if we won a trophy and finished above you? The season that that happens – and it could be this season – will have you scratching around for yet another excuse as to why Arsenal are still better than Spurs. The most sensible thing you’ve said is that the clubs are on an even keel now. Point to all the social media followers you want. If we win a trophy, your entire argument is fooked.
Just a point to consider:
Is it a measure of Spurs improvement that you felt moved to write your article. For decades it would not have occurred to you or anyone else, because Spurs were not even on the horizon
Is it a measure of our decline that we now have to deal with the fact that they are on the horizon and are contenders for our usual 4th spot?
win a trophy? city have won more in recent years, we still hold more social media followers. it will take a lot more than just wiinnign a trophy.
Sorry, this is to Accy (this post and above)…..so you’re saying if you will win a trophy, that alone will get you MILLIONS of social media followers? ahahahaahahah… Chelsea doesn’t even have more, they’ve won more than us, and you incidentally (a LOT more than you, and are a bigger club overall than you now…) you lot crease me up, you finish second one year and get cocky. and your manager is a bitch, who says the ref cost him the game, and doesn’t realise his half-fit striker was the issue…
marblehalls – you’ve completely missed my point and then invented a line about social media followers being the reward for winning something. Try reading what I wrote and then punch yourself in the face.
Your manager who blames the ref for your defeat should punch himself in the face. You know my response to your point was pretty apt, get over yourself.
I wrote this since I don’t see a power shift. There has been little to suggest that such a thing is occurring.
According to Wenger we won a trophy last season no?
Well done for scraping past Sutton Utd, Aldershot and not to mention Peterborough, getting very lucky against City before a great display against Lokomotiv Gazprom London. Winning the FA Cup is not to be sniffed at but going on like you had a better season then us if laughable.
Power shift is all paper talk, any sensible Footy fan will however say that we as a team have overtaken you right now and most neutral fans expect Arse to finish 5th/6th (this we shall see) in terms of finnacial power and overseas support Spurs are miles behind (15 years perhaps in terms finances) and while you may sell more shirts abroad we still have fantastic support and our new stadium will make yours seem like a slightly dated new build.
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Well yes, since it’s all about winning trophies, which is the ultimate point for any club. We did have a better season. Oh, and luck? Is this why you played Wycombe in the same competition, and act cocky when you’ve won fuck-all of late? I love how Spurs fans diss the FA Cup, without realising the central place the competition has in their history. lol.
the Woolwich pikeys are happy again the Wenger out mob have put their banners away and the world is great again what a sad bunch of morons they are and we were once called fickle at least we stay with our club high times or low thats what is called class I watch the Arse fan tv when they lose its comical they are on the verge of mental retards sad innit
Yes, since AFTV represent all of Arsenal fans, right?
But then thick and thin, and fickle. Like you laughing at us for alexis leaving, when he never badmouthed the club like Rose did and still does…. that’s being fickle.
well done for all your cups and league wins over the years but Arse are the only team that have NEVER won the right to play in the top division they were voted in or should i say bribed there way to the top SHAME ON YOUR CLUB FOREVER
Is this just a century of allegations and conspiracy theories then?
I didn’t know Spurs fans were so simple. I guess Barca, Real Madrid, and Juventus are small clubs for getting involved in shady shit down the years….. Even the best of institutions have dark stains, get with reality, fella. I’d also take proven shit over 100 years of hearsay.
Does it still feel like a better season when you are playing KFC Carrierbag on a thursday night?
nice one steviesmozz lets get back to Harry H thats more fun
Bernard, was it your great grandfather or great, great grand father who told you about the alleged bribary to get into the top division? How desperate are you to try to find a way to belittle a bigger club. Even if it was true ( no proof of allegation survives ) Spurs have had decades to try to right such an allegation, but they only reached the top of the hill in the early sixties.
Even Jimmy Greaves, in his day admitted that secretly the Spurs players alway envied “that crowd at the top of the road”. I think he wrote it in his column in The News of The World.
Even if there was an ounce of truth in what you say, you are being selfish; The Top Division will always be better off with Arsenal in it whereas Spurs were never missed. Think of it as an honour that Spurs left it and Arsenal took their place and improved it. Arsenal has never looked back whereas Spurs are forever looking upwards to keep them in sight.
but Arse are the only team that have NEVER won the right to play in the top division FACT
Yes, since we can win it. do you genuinly believe one good result vs. Real Madrid means you’ll win it? football is about winning.
half our first team out and you beat us at your place, dont tell me league winners next
yes, since you had to play a half-fit Kane to boot. But your boy Dele was fit, how come he was missing? Seems you need more depth, that’s poch’s fault, not ours….
but Arse are the only team that have NEVER won the right to play in the top division FACT
I’d forgotten about this to be frank, but then despite your insistence we were corrupt (with no evidence to support your claim), our record in the top division far exceeds yours. 100 years of consistent top division football, and second in all-time top division table. and no first runners-up place in 50 years either.
but happy new year to you, and i mean that sincerely.